Conversations Episode 38 05-31-09

This week was open mic week.  Maria Knee, Sheila Adams, and Lisa Parisi were joined by Lucy Gray and Sue Roseman to discuss many topics such as: twitter issues, NECC 2009, and making changes top down vs. bottom up.

 

Chat Archive:

11:36:26  MariaK -> : stream in etta and ustream

 11:36:41  PeggyG -> : I'm sneaking away from my family but may get suddently called away--will stay as long as I can

 11:36:55  Lisa Parisi -> : Hi Shannon

 11:37:02  brachsmith -> : I am well...how are you?

 11:37:11  PeggyG -> : getting the audio now on ustream-thanks

 11:37:15  Lisa Parisi -> : Good. Are you done with school yet?

 11:37:25  Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Lucy

 11:37:29  brachsmith -> : Yes...been done for about a week...feeling rested!

 11:37:39  LucyGray -> : Hey Lisa

 11:37:52  PeggyG -> : Good morning all!!

 11:38:19  PeggyG -> : I'd like to hear the latest update on the suspended Twitter account :-)

 11:38:35  PeggyG -> : Maria knows

 11:39:05  PeggyG -> : you caused me to do a bunch of research on how this can happen!!

 11:39:14  LucyGray -> : Is there feedback or is it me?

 11:39:25  brachsmith -> : no feedback here

 11:39:31  PeggyG -> : no feedback for me on ustream

 11:40:07  Lisa Parisi -> : Welcome Sue

 11:40:14  sroseman -> : hi Lisa

 11:40:15  PeggyG -> : Hi Sue

 11:40:22  sroseman -> : topic??

 11:40:27  Lisa Parisi -> : Open Mic

 11:40:28  sheila -> : open mic

 11:40:29  sroseman -> : hi Peggy

 11:41:00  PeggyG -> : this is an amazing story--thank you so much for sharing the info

 11:41:32  PeggyG -> : I read somewhere that you had to start a new twitter account to be able to report a problem with your account!

 11:41:45  Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Woodenmask

 11:41:58  woodenmask -> : Hi

 11:42:00  Lisa Parisi -> : Welcome back Lucy.  Try the ustream

 11:42:10  LucyGray -> : ah okay

 11:42:16  sroseman -> : turned off stream  ..wish to use skype

 11:42:17  LucyGray -> : I keep forgetting the opening tabs will close this hat

 11:42:49  PeggyG -> : http://help.twitter.com/forums/26257/entries/15790

 11:42:52  Lisa Parisi -> : Sue, you can only listen through ustream or ETTA

 11:43:17  LucyGray -> : Much better

 11:43:25  colleenk -> : Hi All!

 11:43:29  LucyGray -> : What a story!

 11:43:30  Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Colleen

 11:44:16  LucyGray -> : It's okay

 11:44:17  LucyGray -> : lol

 11:44:21  PeggyG -> : seems to be happening a lot based on this search-- http://search.twitter.com/search?q=suspended

 11:44:22  LucyGray -> : I think Amazon is the worst

 11:44:44  LucyGray -> : If you have a problem with Google Apps or anything education related, you can always shoot me an email and I'll pass it on

 11:45:32  MariaK -> : http://mashable.com/2009/05/30/facebook-twitter-worm/

 11:45:37  PeggyG -> : I've had the same experience with VoiceThread!! They are amazing with their responses!

 11:47:33  PeggyG -> : that's great to know Lucy!!

 11:48:14  PeggyG -> : they say it can take up to 30 days to get your account back up!! you had good luck!!

 11:49:20  PeggyG -> : me too Lisa--happens with new message announcements on some Nings too! you go there and there's no new message

 11:49:23  colleenk -> : One of my Twitetr followers (a teacher) just sent a suspicious looking DM this morning. Didn't click on the link she included.

 11:49:53  PeggyG -> : I love using Power Twitter because it shows you the real URL for tiny urls so you know what you're clicking on

 11:50:53  colleenk -> : @PeggyG This was a url I could read. Something about "join me for spymasters".

 11:51:06  PeggyG -> : http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_account_suspended_without_cause

 11:51:14  colleenk -> : @MariaK No, I didn't click on yours :)

 11:51:15  Lisa Parisi -> : Anyone want to come into the skype call?

 11:51:23  colleenk -> : Is that real?

 11:51:30  PeggyG -> : good decision Colleen--not to click on that one :-)

 11:52:13  PeggyG -> : if you browse through that getsatisfaction link you'll see lots of recent reports about twitter suspended accounts and tips on how they solved the problem

 11:52:37  MariaK -> : skype

 11:52:42  brachsmith -> : is her account suspended?

 11:52:43  PeggyG -> : come back Maria!!

 11:52:53  PeggyG -> : too funny brachsmith!!

 11:54:09  brachsmith -> : it is like your cache

 11:54:23  sroseman -> : I am on a MAC

 11:54:25  brachsmith -> : yes

 11:54:26  PeggyG -> : not sure how clearing your browser cache can solve that problem with twitter

 11:54:28  brachsmith -> : control panel

 11:54:42  brachsmith -> : not sure how that would help

 11:55:26  PeggyG -> : you can choose what you want to remove/clear in preferences on Mac (Firefox and Flock)

 11:55:39  PeggyG -> : you don't have to clear the history to clear the cache

 11:56:00  brachsmith -> : just run a scan with windows defender or something similar

 11:56:20  brachsmith -> : windows defender

 11:56:22  brachsmith -> : free

 11:56:26  brachsmith -> : oh mac

 11:56:34  sroseman -> : Disk Warrior

 11:56:36  brachsmith -> : not sure about mac with windows defender

 11:56:36  PeggyG -> : there are so many reasons your twitter account could be suspended (learned from my reading last night)

 11:56:58  sroseman -> : Disk Warrior ..not free

 11:56:58  brachsmith -> : free is key!

 11:57:16  brachsmith -> : funny

 11:57:16  PeggyG -> : that "bad" video someone hacked on your account could have caused someone to report it as inappropriate and then suspend your account until they can investigate it

 11:57:39  brachsmith -> : I remember that.

 11:57:45  sheila -> : Free for Mac - ClamXav

 11:58:24  PeggyG -> : the frustrating thing I was hearing from people was once your account is suspended you can't use it to contact twitter to report the problem

 11:58:54  sroseman -> : School on Sunday?

 11:59:19  sheila -> : Better connections at school to stream . . .

 11:59:51  PeggyG -> : I read that just today--don't use the 3rd party apps like snowball fight

 12:00:03  PeggyG -> : http://cheryloakes50.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-facebook-account-was-hacked.html

 12:00:17  PeggyG -> : great advice in Cheryl's blog post!

 12:00:30  sheila -> : Thanks Peggy!

 12:00:33  sroseman -> : wow you are devoted

 12:00:52  sroseman -> : key to get tin

 12:01:03  PeggyG -> : It was Maria's experience that caused me to start researching his last night :-)

 12:01:21  PeggyG -> : awards are wonderful!!!!

 12:01:47  PeggyG -> : hooray!!!! twitter not blocked at school :-)

 12:02:14  Lisa Parisi -> : Anyone want to come on the skype call and talk about something?

 12:02:35  brachsmith -> : Must go pick up daughter's friend for playtime...thanks for the morning "conversations"!

 12:02:42  Lisa Parisi -> : Bye Shannon

 12:02:52  sheila -> : Bye Shannon, have a great day.

 12:02:53  PeggyG -> : that's a great reason--Supt. on Twitter :-) We should all send him a welcome message :-)

 12:03:11  sheila -> : Yes, we should. :)

 12:03:22  sroseman -> : can I skype in

 12:03:32  sroseman -> : talk about NECC

 12:03:50  PeggyG -> : What are you all hearing about Google WAVE? sounds really interesting!

 12:04:09  Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Joel

 12:04:40  joelz -> : Howdy

 12:04:52  PeggyG -> : Lucy-can you come on and talk about Google WAVE?

 12:05:17  joelz -> : @Maria: Your super is on Twitter? Can you share her handle?

 12:05:39  PeggyG -> : I agree with Maria--Pollyana point of view is good!!!

 12:06:17  PeggyG -> : http://wave.google.com/

 12:06:26  Lisa Parisi -> : Lucy?  Want in?

 12:06:51  PeggyG -> : when a leader like a Supt starts to use a tool it helps others to want to explore how to use it

 12:07:22  PeggyG -> : look at what has happened with Skype since Oprah started using it and highlighting it!!

 12:07:25  LucyGray -> : Hi

 12:07:33  LucyGray -> : Sorry I was distracted by family

 12:07:36  Lisa Parisi -> : Lucy can you come in and talk about Wave?

 12:07:43  LucyGray -> : I honestly don't know much about wave!

 12:07:54  LucyGray -> : Yeah!

 12:08:14  LucyGray -> : Plan ahead with NECC

 12:08:22  LucyGray -> : Develop a strategy

 12:08:45  PeggyG -> : that link will give you a preview - new tool for communication and collaboration on the web-coming later this year

 12:08:48  joelz -> : @Maria: I got bumped off the chat, can you post your super's twitter handle again?

 12:09:08  Lisa Parisi -> : She didn't post it yet Joel

 12:09:13  LucyGray -> : If you are concerned about being overwhelmed... do plan ahead

 12:09:22  LucyGray -> : That was in response to the woman from Canada!

 12:09:35  LucyGray -> : Pick a theme of something you're interested in

 12:09:54  LucyGray -> : like interactive whiteboards or blogging or math oriented sessions

 12:10:05  PeggyG -> : I think it helps to use the Conference Planner even if you don't go to all of the sessions you save--just helps you to find them easily once you're there

 12:10:23  LucyGray -> : I agree, Peggy. I overbook the planner so I always have some choices

 12:10:43  PeggyG -> : me too--lots of conflicts in my planner but that's fine

 12:10:48  MariaK -> : please follow my super and asst super - tell them the connection- peterhwarburton (super) and  gpaludi  (asst super)

 12:10:55  sheila -> : I use the planner too. Have several choices for each session.

 12:11:06  LucyGray -> : Have you looked in the Global Education ning for people?

 12:11:19  LucyGray -> : http://globaleducation.ning.com

 12:11:42  LucyGray -> : There's a global ed birds of a feather at NECC too where you might find people

 12:12:13  PeggyG -> : I also sometimes sit in the Blogger's Cafe/NECC Unplugged and watch the stream from another session just to save walking :-)

 12:13:28  PeggyG -> : sounds like a great project Lisa!

 12:14:25  sroseman -> : [email protected]

 12:14:32  sroseman -> : oh no the other one

 12:14:42  sroseman -> : [email protected]

 12:15:16  LucyGray -> : You should look for someone from an international school in South America

 12:15:31  sroseman -> : or Shanghai

 12:16:06  sroseman -> : try epals

 12:16:39  LucyGray -> : Also, try TakingITGlobal for connecting

 12:17:33  LucyGray -> : Valerie Becker in Martha's Vineyard has gotten very adept at looking for partners for very specific purposes

 12:17:43  LucyGray -> : You need to contact people directly in the GEC Lisa

 12:17:59  LucyGray -> : There are two people in the GEC from Brazil, for instance, so send them a message

 12:18:06  LucyGray -> : Don't wait for people to come to you necessarily

 12:18:19  LucyGray -> : You have to dig

 12:18:27  LucyGray -> : Unfortunately

 12:18:34  LucyGray -> : Talk to Valerie... she might have some good tips

 12:18:49  LucyGray -> : Once the membership grows, it will get easier

 12:19:04  LucyGray -> : but South America has been traditionally underrepresented

 12:19:09  LucyGray -> : It's because of Bandwith

 12:19:16  LucyGray -> : they don't necessarily have the ability

 12:19:23  LucyGray -> : Look at the GEC cluster map

 12:19:29  LucyGray -> : it's really a map about bandwith

 12:19:33  LucyGray -> : lol

 12:19:38  LucyGray -> : Sure 

 12:19:45  LucyGray -> : let me find headphones

 12:19:50  MariaK -> : @joelz peterhwarburton (super) gpaludi (asst super) mifk  (district tech director)

 12:20:37  sheila -> : http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2009/05/31/_supreme_choice_that_shatters_old_stereotypes.html

 12:20:51  MariaK -> : sheila knows stuff!

 12:21:05  sheila -> : HOw to paste? yeah, right!

 12:21:14  sroseman -> : let's talk about Susan Boyle

 12:21:47  PeggyG -> : Yes--Susan Boyle!! I can't believe she didn't win!! She was amazing!!

 12:21:53  sroseman -> : I am more interested in Michelle Obama's arms

 12:22:02  LucyGray -> : Okay

 12:22:04  LucyGray -> : I'm readly

 12:22:08  LucyGray -> : I have lots of thoughts on this

 12:22:14  sroseman -> : poor performance on Susan Boyle's part

 12:22:17  PeggyG -> : too funny Sue!

 12:22:37  PeggyG -> : I thought her performance was great!

 12:22:51  sroseman -> : Not as good as her first performance

 12:22:54  LucyGray -> : oops I didn't mean to call you

 12:22:58  LucyGray -> : I was just trying to search

 12:23:16  PeggyG -> : that interview with Jen Wagner on ET Brainstorm was fantastic!

 12:23:25  spedteacher -> : I think it is possible that there are a lot of edubloggers who blog in their native languages who do not join our networks because they are not comfortable in or don't know English.

 12:23:29  MariaK -> : yes it was! yeah Jen

 12:24:12  spedteacher -> : How likely would you be to join a Japanese blogging community?

 12:24:27  Lisa Parisi -> : What about English speaking minorities?

 12:24:33  joelz -> : If all things are equal, we should aim for balanced representation.

 12:24:41  PeggyG -> : the webheads in action is an awesome group for people who speak different languages to participate--lots of wonderful sharing!!

 12:25:49  PeggyG -> : http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/schedule their convergence conference was excellent last weekend

 12:25:50  MariaK -> : @peggyG are you a webhead yet?

 12:26:23  MariaK -> : we do programming when we use our logo roamers - log - perfect environment for young children

 12:26:43  MariaK -> : logo not log

 12:27:05  PeggyG -> : http://images4education.ning.com/ This is the Ning Carla Arena started for webheads and it is great! She will be our guest next Sat. on Classroom 2.0 LIVE telling about EVO and Images4Education

 12:27:27  PeggyG -> : I'm sort of a webhead--on the Ning and listserv :-)

 12:28:15  MariaK -> : @peggyG - you are such a geek!  lol That's why I love you.

 12:28:31  PeggyG -> : I really am because I just love learning from everyone!!

 12:29:34  PeggyG -> : I agree with Lucy about the mindset!

 12:29:40  MariaK -> : @woodenmask - i just noticed you are here - woo hoo - hello john NH is well represented in this chat

 12:30:27  colleenk -> : @PeggyG Tim F was very thankful for the Classroom 2.0 opportunity. He really appreciated it.

 12:31:24  PeggyG -> : He was fantastic!! I've listened to his recording twice already! That was such a great show and having both you and Graeme (Math Maker) join in was a real bonus!!

 12:31:44  LucyGray -> : My daugther is at one of the most elite schools here in Chicago

 12:31:51  LucyGray -> : and there's no collaboration going on either

 12:32:02  LucyGray -> : Some teachers, some of the time

 12:32:11  LucyGray -> : but it's not an organized effort

 12:32:14  joelz -> : If it were all up to admins, don't you think things would be diffent by now?

 12:32:15  MariaK -> : @peggyG where are those Classroom 2.0 sessions archived?

 12:32:28  joelz -> : *different*

 12:32:33  LucyGray -> : Let's inspire people!

 12:32:37  LucyGray -> : I'd start with that!

 12:32:54  colleenk -> : There's very little collaboration or technology at the elite schools in Boston. Very traditional setting.

 12:33:20  PeggyG -> : there are very very poor schools that are finding ways to collaborateways to collaborate

 12:33:27  sroseman -> : same problems here in Ontario

 12:33:34  joelz -> : Who has tried and failed with bottom up change? I would love to see documentation of this.

 12:33:34  PeggyG -> : http://live.classroom20.com/archive.html

 12:33:52  sroseman -> : school model has not changed in decades

 12:34:39  PeggyG -> : my typing is so delayed here--sorry for messy posts!!

 12:35:04  joelz -> : I'm not convinced technology by itself is a compelling reason to change

 12:35:31  sroseman -> : take a look at this http://www.nipissingu.ca/education/ITeachprogram.asp

 12:35:44  PeggyG -> : technology should support the changes needed not be the reason for the change

 12:36:19  PeggyG -> : the rewards are very helpful so we can see good models of best practices!

 12:36:36  joelz -> : Who decides what "should be" in education?

 12:36:56  PeggyG -> : great question joelz!

 12:37:22  joelz -> : I stole it from Neil Postman.

 12:38:40  PeggyG -> : thanks for that link Sue-love the laptop program info there

 12:39:01  sroseman -> : can you post your model

 12:39:38  joelz -> : Maybe it's not about delivering YOUR message, but developing a vision WITH your colleagues in your school.

 12:40:04  sheila -> : Good point Joelz

 12:40:21  woodenmask -> : It was a good meeting this past Friday, Maria.

 12:40:44  joelz -> : @Lisa so the issue isn't tech use, the issue is deeply held beliefs.

 12:40:54  Lisa Parisi -> : Yes, Joel.

 12:41:19  joelz -> : Every classroom teacher has an idealist inside waiting to be stirred.

 12:41:31  MariaK -> : there you are - john - wasn't sure if the boy called you away!:p 

 12:41:36  PeggyG -> : very well said Maria-celebrate those changes! we all need encouragement to keep trying new things

 12:42:04  sheila -> : @LisaP - don't forget you inspire us!

 12:42:20  Lisa Parisi -> : I so want to believe that Joel.

 12:42:23  PeggyG -> : hilarious!!

 12:43:20  PeggyG -> : sometimes people don't get it the first time you show/share it--once they discover they have a need for it they'll come back and ask you again

 12:43:21  sheila -> : @LisaP - you got other classrooms to do Earthcast!

 12:44:00  PeggyG -> : thhis has been a great conversation!!

 12:44:14  woodenmask -> : I'm here. Just working on being a better listener. (An uphill struggle.)

 12:44:52  PeggyG -> : I'm going to NECC and can't wait to see any of you who will be there!

 12:44:57  spedteacher -> : That's the problem in my school -- no one to go to for how-to help or any kind of assistance.

 12:44:59  sheila -> : @sroseman - NECC idea - register now for BYOL.

 12:45:25  spedteacher -> : I'm becomming that guy and I have no idea what I'm doing. I just have interest and enthusiasm.

 12:45:33  PeggyG -> : so funny!!

 12:45:55  PeggyG -> : I'm going to the Constructivist Celebration on Sunday with Gary Stager

 12:46:27  PeggyG -> : Saturday is EduBloggerCon and I'm going to that

 12:46:43  PeggyG -> : Hooray Lucy!! I'll see you there

 12:47:09  colleenk -> : Are you going, Maria?

 12:47:44  LucyGray -> : Bye ladies... see you soon

 12:47:49  LucyGray -> : thanks for letting me for babbling

 12:47:55  PeggyG -> : That was such a great show you did with Gary and the NH experience with Constructing Modern Knowledge!!

 12:48:30  Lisa Parisi -> : ettconversations.blogspot.com

 12:48:30  sheila -> : http://ettconversations.blogspot.com

 12:48:56  PeggyG -> : thanks everyone!! fun show!!